Nisemonogatari - Karen and Koyomi. Forbidden love ahead?!

Episode : 05 4. February 2012 20:46

Hello,

Today we'll talk about the fifth episode of the anime series Nisemonogatari that continues with the development of Karen's story (named "Karen's bee") without forgetting to deliver quality fanservice of the cute and energetic sister!

The more I think about this episode the less I think that Kaiki is a con artist. I mean, he was able to take down Karen (a pretty energetic fellow) in a millisecond using an invisible bee by simply touching her!

At the same time I'm not really sure his motives are really only money, especially if I think about the time he was strolling around Kanbaru's house trying to sense something. What is his relationship with her?!

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This episode continues the right from the other with Tsukihi explaining to Koyomi the truth behind Karen's sickness that seems to be a curse received from Kaiki. We are also shown the scene in which Karen faced Kaiki in order to convince him to stop deceiving middle schoolers.

I'm becoming more and more wary of Hanekawa's intervention in the life of the two sisters! She's probably more dangerous than even Kaiki himself... She has some kind of aura that I really can't understand.

I have to commend Koyomi for his resistance to Karen. I mean, she was really beautiful with her long hair in this episode's fanservice scenes. I think she can fight at the same level with Nadeko at this point...:|

Okay, when I first watched this scene I was completely with a "WTF" face all over. The only way for Koyomi to transmit this curse to himself is to kiss with his sister Karen?!

And Koyomi is, without any kind of reluctance or guilt, going to kiss his sister in order to reduce her (well-deserved) pain?! I'll be honest, I'm so envious of the moment...:P

By the way, I don't remember Kaiki kissing Karen in order to pass her the curse, so I'm sure there must be another way around this...

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What we need to understand is how the curse will react to the vampiric body of Koyomi. He is not a normal human anymore and I'm not really sure he's going to be affected at all by a minor curse like that.

Next episode will probably focus on developing the resolution of Karen's story (I don't think Kaiki will be involved anymore in Karen's story) that will have to complete within two episodes in order to leave enough time for Tsukihi's own storyline.

I wonder when Koyomi is going to reveal in the end to his sisters the truth about himself and the powers he got from his vampiric encounter with Shinobu... 

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Concluding, Nisemonogatari is proving itself to be one of the best series of this winter season 2011/2012 and I'm extremely looking forward the following episodes in order to know how Karen's story will complete.

I'm going to continue to watch and blog this in the future as well.

See you soon,

feal87


Discussion (52) -

2/4/2012 9:23:22 PM #

marthaurion

im wondering if shinobu played a trick on him >.>

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2/4/2012 9:25:29 PM #

feal87

well, they the same thing right?what's the point of playing tricks with the guy letting you live?


I'm more scared of Hanekawa... She's evil!

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2/4/2012 9:26:41 PM #

marthaurion

really? you're gonna ask what's the point in playing tricks on koyomi?

possible >.> I'll hesitate before i make a judgment

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2/4/2012 9:33:43 PM #

feal87

wait, nevermind! He is so nice and easy to trick that I'm starting to understand what you mean...


you're too good with girls...  Be careful


not comment on the Karen fanservice scene?! I was like ":Q____" for the whole time...


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2/4/2012 9:34:49 PM #

marthaurion

I haven't seen the death flags yet, so I wouldn't worry too much >.>

of course you were...unfortunately, I don't watch anime for the fanservice >.>

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2/4/2012 9:36:56 PM #

feal87

are you a diary holder?! do you see the flags before they happen ?! :O

wait, is there really anything else important out there apart from fanservice in this series till this point?! I don't remember such a convoluted plot...

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2/4/2012 9:37:49 PM #

marthaurion

Can a mind be a diary? It's not like I'm reading a cell phone....

.....yes

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2/4/2012 9:41:22 PM #

feal87

We saw pretty much everything as a diary till this point, so well that's a possibility!


I need to convert you to the goodness of proper fanservice ( not the High school of the dead annoying kind
)

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2/4/2012 9:45:04 PM #

marthaurion

convert me if you can...I don't think it'll be so easy

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2/4/2012 9:46:08 PM #

feal87

I will need all my powers... And maybe a couple of Ririchiyo...:Q__

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2/4/2012 9:49:46 PM #

marthaurion

>.> you and Ririchiyo....

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2/4/2012 9:54:20 PM #

feal87

Ririchiyo is my ideal girl in terms of looks... There is really no one who can stand against her...

in terms of personality... Well, she can improve.

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2/5/2012 12:14:34 AM #

AceRailgun

I have a feeling the next episode is going to start with Araragi in a bloody mess on the floor. He should have explained why he was going to kiss her.

Either that or it will start with them making out and shock us all.

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2/5/2012 10:29:14 AM #

feal87

that's one of the possibilities, the other is that Karen is going to make him do what he want. Either way I'll be happy!


that would be a nice shock I accept...

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2/5/2012 3:29:20 AM #

tsurugiarashix

Touch Hanekawa's boobs or forever hate? So cruel, Hanekawa


Forget about Nisemonogatari I am ready for some Wincestmonogatari

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2/5/2012 10:28:06 AM #

feal87

that's probably the answer the world is awaiting for. If resolve this issue we will probably make the greatest invention of all times.


That's what I'm waiting for! we need some skinship in the family...

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2/5/2012 10:38:57 AM #

Leap250

Kaiki may very well be the strongest con-man alive, lol, I like his candles/whiskey glasses, but how dare he steal Karen's train money >.<

Koyomi gets everyone - lolis, lesbians, masochists, vampires, and now his own sister. Haremonogatari anyone? ^^

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2/5/2012 10:43:49 AM #

feal87

still not sure he is just a con-man to be honest, he really has done something to Karen...what exactly he is I'm not sure. Any speculation?


okay man, now I need that kind of story adapted into an anime. I need an harem end in which everyone is happy with all this characters! (pretty difficult judging by how much they hate between themselves)

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2/5/2012 10:50:23 AM #

Leap250

I guess he's more or less kinda like Oshino, in that he can manipulate other-worldly stuff. The difference being instead of exorcising them, Kaiki spreads them. Oshino made a lot of money back then too ^^

The possibility of such a story is pretty slim my friend

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2/5/2012 10:53:42 AM #

feal87

well, at least Oshino's money was a retribution to a proper work. He saved plenty of girls using his knowledge...Kaiki on the other hand...


but you do understand the greatness of it right?! we need some writer to pick up the story...

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2/5/2012 11:06:43 AM #

Leap250

He's a bad bad man, lol, even I'd be afraid to step in his office

That show would make it to my top 5 if it happens ^^

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2/5/2012 11:19:27 AM #

feal87

We'll see how they will be able to crack him down...


I would probably make it Knight of Zero if it happens...over the first!

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2/5/2012 4:12:50 PM #

Rei

Love the ticket part. Hanekawa like a boss! The celebration when Araragi got the ticket is something to lol about. Show is progressing very well. Finally some answers to what has been going on lately. Not so sure if Araragi is going to get the kiss or not. But my guess he is not going to get it.

The amount of fan service in every episode is something. Nisemonogatari is probably already on my top 10 anime of 2012. xD

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2/5/2012 4:20:12 PM #

feal87

I have to agree that it was quite fun to see his reaction to the ticket, but still Hanekawa looks really evil. I cant like her.

My guess is just like you, he is not going to get any kiss...


To be honest, at the moment, Nisemonogatari is in the top 10 of all times for me...

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2/5/2012 5:32:48 PM #

Rei

What seriously? Her intention was never evil. She just knows how to tackle stuff in a situation. She is really smart. I'd go for her. But of course where can I leave my lovely Senjougahara? I can't wait to by her figure. Please I want the short hair version so bad


Top 10? Seriously? Damn. Not for me, not yet. xD

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2/5/2012 5:36:34 PM #

feal87

she is smart, too much smart and proactive for my tastes at the point of being almost evil...

I quite like her looks though, she is hot!


well, if you see on my top 10 we have already Bakemonogatari...

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2/5/2012 5:40:10 PM #

Rei

Yes she is hot and she is mine!!!


Wait so you are referring Bake and Nise the same anime? Well yeah Bakemono is on my top 10 list as well ;)

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2/5/2012 5:42:46 PM #

feal87

please go ahead, I'll help myself to Shinobu in the meantime...


Well, they will be separate entries inside the top 10. Probably very near to each other...

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2/5/2012 5:46:16 PM #

Rei

lol take Shinobu I don't really mind.

I see. Well I know Nisemonogatari is going to be awesome but I'm still not sure if it's the best of all time. Yet. xD

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2/5/2012 5:47:47 PM #

feal87

Great!


Not going to be the best most likely, but top 10? Highly possible...


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2/5/2012 4:16:31 PM #

Ecchi Catgirl

So Shinobu said to transfer the curse is to kiss...

Is she playing with Araragi again? Or maybe Araragi is lying and he'll do something else.

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2/5/2012 4:21:17 PM #

feal87

I'm not sure if she's playing with Koyomi again, but I think Koyomi is quite serious here. The uncertainty is inside Karen, how will she react?!

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2/6/2012 7:04:14 AM #

Nopy

I don't think Karen's just going to sit there and let her brother kiss her. She'll probably beat him up in the next episode and he'll have to find another way to cure her.

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2/6/2012 8:50:39 AM #

feal87

That's a possibility, especially knowing her energetic personality. She is not a girl who give up easily...

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2/6/2012 1:44:06 PM #

Hoshiko

"She has some kind of aura that I really can't understand" <- yeah, I agree. Hanekawa feels a bit different in this series. It's either that or I forgot how she is originally. I don't recall her being very bold in her actions.

Ah, I don't want to see Koyomi kissing Karen to be honest. Probably Shinobu's just messing with him, giving him false information about the transfer of illness. >.<

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2/6/2012 1:48:51 PM #

feal87

that was my impression as well, but probably after the supernatural issue was resolved her personality changed...


to be honest I'm pretty sure it won't happen, it's just a way for them to tease us (as always), but I thought it as a nice cliffhanger...

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2/6/2012 7:24:15 PM #

exilehero

Touch her boobs Araragi! It's tottaly worth it!!

While hair-down Karen is really cute, I still think no one can compete with Nadeko :p.

Shinobu might just be messing with Araragi to see if he'd actually kiss his sister!

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2/6/2012 8:14:03 PM #

feal87

exactly what I was thinking in that moment! It was worth it!


I preferred the two sisters to Nadeko at the moment, but well...tastes...


that is a possibility, but I'm not even sure Karen will allow this in the first place. She is not the kind of girl to give in that easily...

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2/7/2012 1:17:48 PM #

Wieselhead

*damn* even Karen is hot XD Who needs these two remaining old hags anymore.
No Im just kidding, I wouldn't mind an fanservice moment with Hanekawa and/or Hitagi *Q*

At first the Kaiki scene was hilarious with the silly background music.
It appears quite stupid for a teenage girl, to get in trouble with a dangerous grown up. I had the feeling of uneasyness during this half scene.

I guess kissing her won't lift the course and with Araragi getting it nothing good will be achieved as well. Karen and Araragi are so similar.

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2/7/2012 1:32:24 PM #

feal87

ha ha, not sure if it will ever happen especially as Hanekawa is quite wary of her surroundings as you can see...


she was definitely not going to win in any case, she had to ask help from Koyomi, but her pride didn't allowed this...


well, I don't think that will happen in the first place. they are just trying to tease us until next week...

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2/7/2012 1:41:02 PM #

Wieselhead

Oh that would actually be a little letdown, after showing just the younger ones. Mhh maybe Araragi should make Hanekawa drunk *lol*

The question is, who will show more skin next week?
hopefully not Kaiki *urgs*

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2/7/2012 1:42:57 PM #

feal87

I'm in for it, she will send an e-mail to the director?! That would be awesome , especially knowing Hanekawa's personality...


ha ha, no, please no. That will be really awful...

possibly we will get more skin of Tsukihi or again Karen... I don't think anyone else will actively participate in the next episode...

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2/7/2012 1:52:47 PM #

Wieselhead

Yeah ^^

Ok, then maybe no fanservice at all and more story, would be good as well.

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2/7/2012 1:54:35 PM #

feal87

With Shaft no fanservice?! Ahahah, nice joke!

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2/8/2012 12:05:32 AM #

Shizuo

Ticket scene, errrrrr.

Araragi swicth place with me, please >3<

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2/8/2012 12:06:48 AM #

feal87

Sir, There is a long queue for that, please go at the end of it and orderly wait. Thank you!

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2/8/2012 3:50:55 PM #

Sakumasiki

At first, Shinobu Oshino's voice had been planned Aya Hirano.(Haruhi Suzumiya's Voice Actress)
But rumor has it that voice was changed to Maaya Sakamoto by Hirano's scandal.
I love Maaya's voice.^^ …She married; even so :3

Hirano lost a large number of supporters because a scandal over her dirty relations with guys got abroad, I think.
(About this scandal, Hirano has continued to ignore.[no comment])
Then...I think, "Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu SEASON 3" is difficult...
or Haruhi's Voice Actress will be changed...

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2/8/2012 3:56:24 PM #

feal87

I knew about this info as it was widely talked even in the international scene (the Hirano's scandal I mean), but honestly speaking I prefer Shinobu with Maaya's voice to be honest, she sound better in that role.


I doubt they could change voice actress for Haruhi that easily as most of the fans everywhere are used to her. (it would be like changing Konata's voice in Lucky Star...) Possibly you're right with the "it will be difficult to get another season of Suzumiya..."

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2/8/2012 4:17:44 PM #

Sakumasiki

>I knew about this info...
Oh sorry^^;
And yeah, I think she sound better too.

About "Haruhi's Voice Actress", They said: Ayana Taketatu is good.
[Kirino -Ore no Imouto...-]
But... She has little scandal too. ^^;

>it will be difficult...
Yeah...So sad...

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2/8/2012 4:22:54 PM #

feal87

No problem, always like to discuss with other people of anime/manga/VN!


Ayana Taketatsu...but still it wouldn't sound Haruhi without Hirano. In my mind I am too much used to listen to Hirano's voice that is really difficult to change it that easily.


Well, there's still plenty of time to see as the writer is pretty slow to publish new novels from what I can see...

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2/14/2012 3:32:13 AM #

OverlordG

If they had gone through with that route, I'd have dropped this show. Thankfully they didn't. I still wasn't surprised in the least when Shinobu said there was only one, dirty way of easing Karen's suffering, by sucking out the poison. Of course since this season focuses more on perversion they had to write in a lip lock.
Whatever, the rest of the episode was okay...again. Good grief, this show just can't escalate passed okay for me.

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2/14/2012 10:00:16 AM #

feal87

Well, don't be so sure about it. They may put the kiss scene as an extra in the DVD/Blu Ray and troll us.

But yes, the progress till now is pretty good imho, just extremely slow...

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