Guilty Crown - Yep, everything is just as expected. Dropped!

by feal872. February 2012 22:30

Hello everyone,

Today we'll talk about the 15th episode of the fall 2011 anime series Guilty Crown that marks the 15th episode of cliche and boring story developments all-around.

In the end after this episode, just like I announced in the last post I decided to drop this series from regular coverage (may do some random post if the story ever get better) in order to make space to more promising/interesting anime series. I'm still quite undecided on what to pick up as new series to cover regularly. (Black rock shooter? Inu X Boku SS?)

But please do not misunderstand me, it's not like Guilty Crown has bad production quality, it's just that the story is so boring and unbelievable that I can't bear to cover it regularly.

Especially after a character I dearly loved (even if she wasn't my favourite character) dies off just to make an idiotic protagonist grow up. I'm also unsure she really managed to do it in the proper way...

Guilty Crown

The episode developed exactly like I thought with some introduction giving additional space to the character about to be killed off. They made her set up all the death flags that it's possible to put for a single character!

Soon after they switched to a very high paced battle in which the character (Hare in this case) dies to save the protagonist, making him "grow" as a result! (into a murderous machine though...)

The whole development was on-par with the other episodes with various kind of "WTF" moments. Try to think about Ayase shooting a rocket launcher right from her wheelchair. Yes, the same STABLE wheelchair that made her fall like 20 times already!

Well, let's try to forget about all this story and get back to the things that matter as clearly shown in this video! Yes, of course! I'm talking about the girls showcased in this storyline!

Because well, in the end what remain inside my heart of this whole series are just the five girls composing the main cast till this episode and not the unbelievable shounen story they showcased till now.

While my favourite is still Tsugumi (there is probably no one who can stand against her), I won't forget the poor and neglected Hare that died without even being able to properly make Shu grow up as a normal man!

Guilty Crown

I wonder what happened to Daryl after Shu destroyed his robot, died for the heavy shock? Or he's still alive and kicking ready to kill other main characters? Especially as he seemed to be caring for Tsugumi...

What will happen now? Well, my prediction is that Shu will grow up into the murderous machine using his classmates as weapon in order to reach his goals only to get a "wake up call" at the very end by remembering the people that died for him (Hare, Gai and Mana and probably others in the following episodes)

I'm not sure if they will try a 360° turn around resurrecting all the characters at the very end in order to achieve an happy end, but I surely hope not, otherwise they will just make fun of themselves. 

Guilty Crown

Concluding, I started watching this series with a lot of anticipation, but it ended up to be a quite forgettable shounen series with some pretty girl here and there.

I'll continue to watch this, but I'm not going to cover it regularly anymore.

See you soon,

feal87 

Comments (82) -

2/2/2012 10:35:04 PM #

marthaurion

I'm sure Daryl's still alive...he hasn't betrayed the Anti Bodies yet.

Resurrecting dead characters...where have I seen that before? Naru- Anyways, I don't think this is the type of show to just bring characters back like that. Maybe as memories or ghost-like images cheering Shu on, but not coming back to life or anything.

And I'm gonna end with: Totally called it...I've got this show so far analyzed, I could almost say "I can see the ending" and channel my inner Katsuragi

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2/2/2012 10:39:06 PM #

feal87

that's also true, but I'm not sure he will be welcome from the other side after he killed Hare and many other innocents...we really don't need new "orange" without the charisma of the real one.

that's certainly my hope, try to think if they pull out a My Hime ending. did you watch that series?


ha ha, you're very far from Katsuragi man! I'm not really sure about the ending though, it would be too lame to do a "code geass redux" or not?

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2/2/2012 10:40:48 PM #

marthaurion

There's no point in his behavior if he just dies...

Didn't watch it >.> Dunno the reference...

Would definitely be lame to do a Code Geass redux >.>

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2/2/2012 10:43:33 PM #

feal87

that's true, but probably his role will be different then becoming a rebel...I do not exactly what. Any idea?


I just tell you that they
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killed off pretty much all the important characters with angsty scenes only to resurrect ALL of them at the very end. We call it "Sunrise trainwreck with 360° turnback"


but well, the real question is " isn't this already pretty lame?"...

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2/2/2012 10:47:32 PM #

marthaurion

Maybe he's the dude who turns on the big bad guy at the crucial point to give Shu the chance to win.

Yeah...I hate crap like that. Death is a pretty big deal, and shouldn't be revoked so lightly. It makes the death lose all of its meaning. Yeah yeah...I get that fangirls/fanboys want their favorite characters to be alive, but get over it. Better they die and stay dead than die and come back to life. This is the main reason I think that
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Lelouch is dead
.

I'm sure it could be worse....

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2/2/2012 10:51:29 PM #

feal87

possibly, that's probably something I can see happen...


that will be definitely very lame to go back and resurrect everyone. It make everything looks even more bleak than actually is already...dead are better off dead imho.


I'm already considering a "Shu dies to pay off his sins" ending, and I really feel it will be abnormally lame as well...


As many people said during these 15 episodes " I was wrong to say that it can't get worse. It can and it always do!"...

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2/4/2012 2:13:59 PM #

TheJester

Oh god... My Hime... that ending...

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2/4/2012 2:16:39 PM #

feal87

I was like WTF when I watch that ending. So lame...

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2/2/2012 11:38:42 PM #

du5k

Welcome back to the light side, my brother.

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2/2/2012 11:40:51 PM #

feal87

Thanks brother, I tried hard to bear all this...and well...failed.

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2/3/2012 2:12:52 AM #

du5k

At least there more than enough good series this season for your "rehab", lol.

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2/3/2012 9:45:27 AM #

feal87

yeah, there are plenty of series to pick up. That's the only thing I'm not worried about...

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2/3/2012 12:04:25 AM #

Leap250

Damn. Killing off Hare just to make Shu even the tiniest bit manly was just...damn >.<

The only reason I'm gonna keep watching this is of course for Ayase, and then Daryl. As for Shu, he can continue doing that moan-cry thing he did, lol

long live Hare I guess ^^

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2/3/2012 12:06:08 AM #

feal87

was definitely something I was expecting from them! Cheesy and predictable, and will probably lead to a "evil Shu" in the following episodes, don't you think so?

I will continue to watch this (even if not blogging every week) for Tsugumi, but well I'm not expecting much from the story at this point.

Long live the Queen!

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2/3/2012 12:30:21 AM #

Leap250

Yeah, more or less it's gonna be evil king mode Shu, with Yahiro smiling behind him. We may also see some more "forced entry" from Shu, lol

Who knows, they might actually have a real non-cliche twist saved up, but I doubt it

*looks for Hare wallpaper*

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2/3/2012 9:46:38 AM #

feal87

we are probably going to see a Lelouch-mode without the charm of Lelouch from next episode...


ha ha, we'll see what they will do. I'm not hoping for much though...


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2/3/2012 5:02:59 AM #

Silver

"to make Shu even the tiniest bit manly"
I wish you can see things for what it was instead of reminiscing the past when Shu was a total wimp. He changed a lot over the past couple episodes. Can't you at least recognize that? Pretty please? Lots of please? Lol! It's like no matter how badass he becomes, no one will recognize and still call him a wimp even if he kicks our ass 1 million times over!

Also did you notice how he just suddenly stopped his moan-cry and just went from that to something near the end with "I'm going to be king" with that evil eyes. He's damn broken isn't he?

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2/3/2012 5:35:06 AM #

Leap250

lol^^ I gave Shu credit for his badass-ery when he saved Ayase and Tsugumi, but I guess it's just the fact that Shu needs character deaths to grow. Shu's gonna have to actually attain GAR status to win me back, which I think might be possible with the new evil king mode Shu


That cold look he gave reminded me of Death Note for a second, broken - yes, cool - almost.

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2/3/2012 10:16:00 AM #

feal87

we'll see what will happen in the following episodes as I'm going to watch it anyway...


sorry to say it, but Yagami Light was ages better than Shu... I mean, they are on two different levels altogether...

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2/3/2012 10:14:35 AM #

feal87

he is improving, but the price paid is too much compared to the change especially after all the shit he made us pass through in these episodes.


The problem is, all this development looks too much like Code Geass... If he end up dying to save Japan or something I will deeply cry...

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2/3/2012 12:10:38 AM #

Kai

Ooh sad to see you actually dropped a series since it's more then halfway through D; I stopped watching Guilty Crown at around episode 12 I think. I was planning to wait for more episodes, then marathon the hell out of em ;D

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2/3/2012 12:17:15 AM #

feal87

Well, dropped from coverage weekly to make space to other series, but still watching as I said. Pointless to stop watching now, right?

you're in for some godly cheesy story as soon as you restart watching this...

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2/3/2012 12:19:51 AM #

Mira

It took you 15 episodes, but that's okay! I had a feeling Hare was what Shirley was to Code Geass.

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2/3/2012 9:47:19 AM #

feal87

that incredibly sad, I heard too many people got disappointed by this series.

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2/3/2012 3:08:26 PM #

Mira

I never really had high expectations to begin with so it's kind of funny how this show has gotten progressive worse. Pretty sad, it's a very visually pleasing show.

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2/3/2012 4:18:06 PM #

feal87

the only problem I have with this series is exactly around that, they had such a wonderful visual quality that is a waste for that story...

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2/3/2012 12:19:54 AM #

AceRailgun

i think I picked up on the death flags about 5 minutes into the episode. I know that she was going to die this episode. I'm most looking forward to the posibilty of Shu becoming some sort of invincible evil king. The scene where he pinned Inori down and took her void was one of the best moments in this show so far. For me anyway.

You lasted longer then I did but ultimately gave up like everyone before you. I'd be surprised if anyone can blog this until the very end.

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2/3/2012 5:32:46 AM #

Myst

I accept that challenge! But seriously, I really am considering just not even finishing watching this, let alone blogging it, after this episode. This episode was just too much...

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2/3/2012 9:50:23 AM #

feal87

that's my same feeling, I was expecting it to be bad, but not this bad...

let us know what you'll do...

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2/3/2012 9:56:25 AM #

feal87

we picked them up right from the preview in the last episode. She was bound to die after all these flags being put up.

I'm not sure how long he will last in evil mode to be honest, he will probably return to angst sooner or later by remembering the ones who died for him.


well, I tried as hard as possible...

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2/3/2012 12:27:31 PM #

AceRailgun

I didn't watch the preview last week ^^;

If he stays evil this series is now in my top ten but if he returns to angst within an episode. (I guess he will stay evil half an episode.) then it's lower then my top 100.

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2/3/2012 12:28:52 PM #

feal87

Sorry, but it will be well under the 60-70 position probably for me, even if he remains evil. 7 good episodes can't save 15 episodes of mediocrity.

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2/3/2012 12:53:11 PM #

AceRailgun

But him being evil the rest of the episodes would be a bold move on the writers part especially sine everything so far has been super safe.

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2/3/2012 1:24:09 PM #

feal87

I suppose we'll see in the following episodes, I'm rather negative on the prospective of this series at the moment. Probably they can surprise me with something good in the final episodes...

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2/3/2012 10:33:59 AM #

Rei

Fuck Shu! I'll still blog it though. Hardest anime to watch ever!

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2/3/2012 10:36:36 AM #

feal87

ha ha, you're brave to continue after this episode...

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2/3/2012 12:23:39 AM #

SparkNorkx

Lol, I had dropped this series when it was Episode 12. Anyway, I'll probably skip some of the Winter season anime since it's mostly about high school and mechs.

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2/3/2012 8:24:42 AM #

alex

why do you want to skip the best shows

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2/3/2012 9:48:16 AM #

feal87

true! This season is far better than I first thought...

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2/3/2012 9:47:55 AM #

feal87

well, dropping this series is fine, but there are plenty of interesting series this season. Especially Rinne no Lagrange, give it a shot!

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2/3/2012 4:05:52 PM #

SparkNorkx

Yeah, I know that but I don't have much time nowadays. I already had seen the first two episodes when they first came out for Rinne no Lagrange.

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2/3/2012 4:18:44 PM #

feal87

I know, time is the biggest enemy for us...

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2/3/2012 6:39:51 PM #

Rei

Rofl. This season is way better than the last season with BRS, Nisemonogatari, Another, Ano Natsu... Dude you are missing one of the best season ever! Last fall season can't even come near this season

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2/3/2012 6:42:42 PM #

feal87

*nods*

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2/3/2012 3:24:41 AM #

Riyoga

I guess something good came out of not keeping up with most of the fall shows, after all. I got to read all of the posts agonizing over it without having to watch it myself!

AND YOU SHOULD BLOG SHANA AGAIN IN ITS PLACE SO I CAN GET MORE FABULOUS SHANA WALLPAPERS. OF FABULOUS.

Or you could do Inu x Boku SS. It has definitely been an extremely enjoyable show so far.

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2/3/2012 9:59:34 AM #

feal87

Yeah, I saw that there was quite a bit of rage around the world for it. But well the end is here for me.


Ha ha, I honestly have to recover with the air of Shana as I'm quite a bit back (something like 10th episode) in the air.


That's something I was thinking of and is still a possibility...

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2/3/2012 4:21:42 AM #

hippiefreak12

Shu's gonna be evil for like 2-3 episodes and get a few people in his school killed. Then Inori is gonna tell him he's been a bad person, he's gonna cry about it and be good again.
I called it, Shu's gonna be a badass.
But of course, it won't be easy getting over Hare's death, I preferred her over Inori

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2/3/2012 9:57:35 AM #

feal87

that's my prediction as well, I don't think this is going to end like Code Geass... I mean it would be too lame to copy even the ending from another series...


same here, or well, I prefer anyone over Inori!

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2/3/2012 5:19:38 AM #

Silver

Anyways... you should do either Shana, Papa no Iukoto, or Inu x Boku. It is for the benefits of awesome wallpapers. Muhahaha!

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2/3/2012 9:48:57 AM #

feal87

ha ha, I was expecting someone to make such a statement. This is my current idea :

mon - persona/mirai nikki
tue - ano natsu de matteru
wed - editorial/papakiki
thu - inu x boku ss/black rock shooter
fri - Symphogear
sat - Nisemonogatari
sun - rinne no lagrange

Still not entirely sure though...

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2/3/2012 5:49:33 AM #

Aedes

Doesn't dropping it make you feel.....guilty
?

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2/3/2012 9:49:34 AM #

feal87

yeah, pretty much. Especially as we are very near to the finish, but hopefully my clone ( you) will be watching/ blogging this for me. Right?!

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2/3/2012 9:59:06 AM #

Aedes

I'm sorry, but your clone ( me) is specialized in VN's. Haven't watched any anime in months.

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2/3/2012 10:12:46 AM #

feal87

go and recover your share of daily anime infidel!

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2/3/2012 10:25:08 AM #

Aedes

Can't do it. Because, well, the episodes are weekly not daily.

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2/3/2012 10:26:03 AM #

feal87

But everyday we get a different series! So you can daily watch anime!

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2/3/2012 10:34:08 AM #

Aedes

Sure, if you make every one of them a romance series!

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2/3/2012 10:36:19 AM #

feal87

Yuri romance or normal one? :O

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2/3/2012 10:39:54 AM #

Aedes

Both, for variety's sake.

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2/3/2012 10:40:51 AM #

feal87

that's the answer I was expecting from my clone! you are a worthy brother!

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2/3/2012 8:18:25 AM #

alex

so dropped every week

I watch it for the /a/ threads, they are gold, especially since the former episode and actually the episodes are more interesting when watched raw
in news at 11: Guilty Crown sells OVER 9000 (no joke) and that in the land where C3, MiraiNikki and SoraNoWoto sold around 2.5k
I heard everyone died in Geass so guess what will happen next
killing Hare was way too much but don't worry they all get resurrected in the last episode

damn OP2 will come out on march, whyyyy
if it's between InuBoku and BRS then BRS

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2/3/2012 8:51:38 AM #

alex

the character design sucks and the uniforms are ugly but BRS was better than expected

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2/3/2012 10:12:12 AM #

feal87

I heard it was quite good, I'll give a watch at it today after work!

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2/4/2012 10:10:54 AM #

alex

covering BRS could be a problem though, there's not much plot that would make much sense

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2/4/2012 10:15:46 AM #

feal87

I gave it a look today, it's nicely done, but there isn't much story to be talking about. I'm not sure if to cover it regularly...

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2/3/2012 10:11:13 AM #

feal87

that's a possibility if they do the same shit all over again.


well, at least it was still a fluke anyway compared to series like Kyoukai Oppai no Horizon (23K+), Fate Zero (30+), etc...


if they do get resurrected it will be even more lame. What they died for in the first place?!

not sure about what to pick up, I will give a think over this week...

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2/3/2012 8:57:58 PM #

alex

a bazooka is actually recoilless so they did it right, probably unintentionally
but I still wonder she didn't fall in this episode
Shu was busy raising Hare's death flags than to have time to pay attention to Ayase anyway, she mostly falls when she needs attention

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2/3/2012 9:10:50 PM #

feal87

well, probably her wheelchair works correctly only in war situations...


True enough, but well Shu is Shu after all. Now we just have to understand who will be the next victim...

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2/3/2012 10:37:15 AM #

Rei

Shit I should have dropped this at episode 12.. There is no turning back now. I've been force to go to the dark side... Noooooooooooo!

Show is worth a 1/10 just for making Hare..... *evil mode*

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2/3/2012 10:38:49 AM #

feal87

I continue watching it, but not going to blog every week or it will become just a rage talk...


1/10 is still gentle with this series...


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2/3/2012 6:50:35 PM #

Rei

I'm gonna kill the director's wife, and see how he will react.


Guess I should have give it a -9...

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2/3/2012 7:34:18 PM #

feal87

...go for it!

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2/3/2012 3:23:42 PM #

Hoshiko

Gosh, I don't even know what to say about this episode. Everything is so cliche. The death of Hare and then put the blame on Shouta in this episode were expected. Gee. Right now, I could more or less tell how the story might just turn out in the end...

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2/3/2012 4:21:05 PM #

feal87

it's so sad, isn't it?!


I still have a glimpse of hope they will be able to surprise us at the very very end, but well until then...

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2/5/2012 11:52:17 AM #

Wieselhead

An understandable decision of you.
Hare
She was not a character I really cared for, but it was quite horrible to see a cute girl die like this, at least the chopper missed her

Somehow it could be expected that someone close to him would die.

Shu is such a strange character, I just got used of him as a wimp and now he's the damn evil LeLouch. Hopefully Daryl died as well. It might also be possible that it's finally judgement day for the evil empire. Just kill em all Shu.

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2/5/2012 11:55:10 AM #

feal87

I really don't want start raging about it, I will do some other posts if it ever get better...


I'm really not sure about what to expect now. Will Shu die like Lelouch? or he will be be redeemed?!

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2/6/2012 6:54:03 AM #

Nopy

I gave up on my expectations for Guilty Crown back at episode 6. Now I just watch it to laugh at all of the cliche plot devices that are used and the impossibilities that occur.

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2/6/2012 8:52:09 AM #

feal87

ha ha, I'll be joining your club starting from next episode. I hope it will be a nice experience...

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2/9/2012 8:32:13 AM #

baka~

I already gave up hope of this anime surprising me with an original plot. In the end, the only reason I watch this show is for the fanservice and supercell.

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2/9/2012 10:29:02 AM #

feal87

Now they killed off one of the source of fanservice too...

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3/5/2012 9:04:47 AM #

Hotsuma

I love how you only accept the comments that hate on the series. Pathetic.

Really guys? Why the hell do you think it’s called Guilty Crown. So most of the characters became too unlikeable for you? Killed off your favorite characters? It’s called character development. You're forgetting one thing... it's about the MAIN character. All that shit that has happened up to episode 19 is very relevant to the title that they gave the anime. You shouldn't have been expecting any MOI after that shit from episode 3.

I’m not expecting a very happy ending, but the people who made this anime are definitely pulling it off well. Not all anime is the same. If it were, that would be so goddamn boring. This is actually something DIFFERENT for once. This ain't no Gurren Laggan/Goku saving the earth again bullshit. This shit is serious.

If you’re looking for a happy ending with likeable characters where all your characters are happy and alive, go watch K-On or some Toradora you fucking wimps.

Oh and by the way... How the fuck is Hare the source of fanservice? There are so many other girls in the series that could easily just replace her, with so many other people that have different fetishes. Get real.

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3/5/2012 9:48:24 AM #

feal87

There is a reason for which this blog is moderated. Comments with no explanation whatsoever and just a couple of insults (I moderated only two of them on this precise post though...) aren't going to appear here, EVER.


In your case, you tried to elaborate and that's why you're here. ;)

That's the point man, we don't like the main character. Is there anything bad with it? He passed through from a wimpy high school kid to Hitler and now to Jesus. What were the writers thinking?


Mhn...Everyone around here feels Code Geass vibes every turn, probably Shu will end up sacrificing himself in order to make the world live in peace like a certain other someone...

I'll pass on the K-On, but I'll gladly accept Toradora!


It depends on your tastes I suppose. I don't like corpses (Inori) or girls like Ayase, though I'm quite fond of Tsugumi (she's my favorite character after all)

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Posts count : 640 Posts
Series count : 206 Series
Comments count : 15282 Comments

Media Usage Report:

3330 Wallpapers (1.72 GB)
259 Videos (1025.86 MB)
291 Manga Cover (223.96 MB)
3 Figures Image (2.65 MB)
2175 Screenshots (708.7 MB)
494 Audio Files (64.43 MB)
Google Reader Subscribers : 100

Website Statistics

727249 visits

2190623 page views

Updated on 23/05/2012 12:49:05 GMT+1