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Fate / Zero - Yes my friend, they trolled us! Second season...

by feal8724. December 2011 23:20

Hello everyone,

Here we are to talk about the 13th and last episode of the first season of Fate Zero that leave us with a very big cliffhanger (Rider, Lancer and Saber attacking Caster) and no battles at all in pure trolling style.

Fortunately the talk between Waver and Rider was excellent and really improved my opinion of Rider. He's even more likable than I first thought...

The second season is slated to air in the spring season 2012 starting in April so there is quite a big gap in between the two seasons. I will probably need to watch the first season again just before april in order to prepare myself for the second one...:)

This whole episode was dedicated to the Waver/Rider pair, with the first having a dream from his servant in a similar way to what happened many times to Shirou during the fifth war.

We finally get to know a bit more about Rider's past and his real desire to get the holy grail (to see the ocean he longed while alive). I have to say that watching Rider care about Waver was quite heartwarming...

Knowing Waver future position as explained from the original Fate/Stay Night game (Rin True ending) and watching this episode confirmed my feelings that his experience with Rider in the fourth war was the key to his success.

In a proper trollish fashion the episode end with this short scene of Saber, Rider and Lancer attacking the monster-Caster in order to end his life once and for all before he becomes too powerful.

I have to say that Ryuunosuke's talk with Caster before the great battle was remarkable. He really don't look the cold crazy monster I knew from some episodes ago and I wonder if he has some special reason for needing the grail.

I'm also curious about how Saber will be able to fight against a proper servant like Caster with her wrist injury.

I'm not sure they will be the only one partecipating to this final battle because judging from the preview both Gilgamesh and Berserker will appear in the next episode.

Speculating on the next season is pretty much pointless at this point, but knowing that we have only 12 remaining additional episodes in the second season I'm sure we'll get our share of action.

This is particularly true if we think that 6 of the 7 heroes are still alive and kicking. I just wonder if it'll be really Caster the first one to go...

Concluding, Fate Zero, despite the trolling, is continuing to be an entertaining series that I'll watch and blog in the second season as well.

We just have to wait 3 months and half now to get the next episode...:(

See you soon,

feal87

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12/25/2011 7:02:17 AM #

I'm just glad the cliff hanger wasn't too big. Got to wait three months for the fighting to start. That's almost too long.

AceRailgun | 174 Comments - | Reply

12/25/2011 9:38:20 AM #

3 months to get to know how the battle will fare, they're heartless! They want us to suffer...ç___ç

feal87 | | Reply

12/25/2011 10:01:43 AM #

It brings tears to my eyes. At least its only 3 months and not a year like some American television shows.

AceRailgun | 174 Comments - | Reply

12/25/2011 10:04:54 AM #

That's also true enough...

Hopefully Nisemonogatari (that will take this slot) will be more entertaining...

feal87 | | Reply

12/25/2011 1:06:50 PM #

I saw another PV for Nisemonogatari 5 minutes ago. I though it was going to be cool but it just had 1 new picture for 15 seconds. It trolled me more then this episode of Fate Zero.

AceRailgun | 174 Comments - | Reply

12/25/2011 1:20:56 PM #

ahahahah agreed, but well the stories are good and the direction is SHAFT. I don't need anything else to jump into the bandwagon...

feal87 | | Reply

12/25/2011 7:29:09 AM #

Is Caster a gigantic squid ?
They should end it in a proper way with defeating Caster, to end it with a cliffhanger is pretty stupid. Nothing much happened in the show and they even end it like this.
You can only hope they use the time for making the action scenes.

alex | 362 Comments - | Reply

12/25/2011 9:39:21 AM #

Now yes, after he got assimilated. I wonder what Japan have against squids...

Exactly 14 episodes (if you count the first as a double one) and nothing happened at all. Now they'll have to cram everything in the remaining 12 episodes...

feal87 | | Reply

12/27/2011 10:53:03 PM #

They've adapted it up to the beginning of the third volume of the LN (meaning they finished the second and adapted a bit of the third), so they have less than 2 books for the remaining 12 episodes, while they adapted more than 2 books in 14. I'd say they're just going at the right pace, so it shouldn't be "crammed".

Dusk252 | 40 Comments - | Reply

12/27/2011 10:56:28 PM #

Oh, so basically 6 heroes (well 5 if you count Saber as the "winner") will die in a very short term in less than 2 novels?! That's remarkable, I'm curious about how they'll manage to do it while continuing to explain all the details of the story.

I'm not sure how much this will be possible with only 12 episodes and 6 heroes still alive. That is unless some of the heroes (somebody said Lancer?!) dies very fast...

feal87 | | Reply

12/28/2011 5:42:21 PM #

Exactly, the deaths only start in the 3rd volume. And I think they'll managed to adapt it just fine.

Did you mention Lancer? The poor guy's luck never runs out. The way he dies is just... O_o It seems like in the Fate universe, being Lancer truly IS suffering.

Dusk252 | 40 Comments - | Reply

12/28/2011 5:45:18 PM #

Mhn...we'll see how it'll go...:O

Awwwwwwww, you interested me. I'm eager to see how they'll make Lancer suffer this time around. At least in Fate he had the GAR death in Unlimited BladeWorks...

feal87 | | Reply

12/29/2011 8:58:55 AM #

Oh no, wait, Assassin dies in the last few pages of volume 2, I believe... Not that it makes that much difference. Most action and deaths are concentrated in the last two volumes.

FSN Lancer's end in UBW made me love him, this Lancer dies in a way that can only make me feel sorry for him. But... I won't go into details. I'm not the type to go around spreading spoilers, since I hate to read those myself. Unless you want me to, that is xD

Dusk252 | 40 Comments - | Reply

12/29/2011 9:19:31 AM #

That's nice! At least we'll finally see Tokiomi battle instead of shaking glass wine...

True, he was a remarkable hero to save Rin in that way...

Oh well, better not know anything and keep the tension till the next season! Just have 4 months to wait...

feal87 | | Reply

12/29/2011 10:36:27 PM #

Yeah, I can't help but laugh everytime I see that facebook profile image they made xD By the way, did you get the impression that Tokiomi is really, really naive? Because he really stroke me as that from the very beginning of the novel but I didn't get that impression with the anime...

Yep, that was totally awesome. This Lancer on the other hand... there's something similar about their deaths but at the same time they're totally different.

Dusk252 | 40 Comments - | Reply

12/29/2011 10:48:50 PM #

Nope, I see him as the perfect Magus in terms of knowledge and behaviour and a nice father as well.

He will just be unlucky for sure, because I don't think a powerful mage like Tokiomi will be defeated in fight by any other master Kiritsugu included.

feal87 | | Reply

12/30/2011 9:01:06 PM #

Indeed, he is what you'd call a "perfect magus", along with all that implies. He's good, and he knows he's good, which gives birth to overconfidence. He's also way to trusting of those around him - he sees Kirei as the perfect pupil, truly admires him and trusts him as family, while we know Kirei isn't exactly one to be trusted...
As for him being a nice father... Have you possibly forgotten episode 1? Which "nice father" would send his daughter away while being totally aware of what would happen to her? Regardless of the circumstances, that's simply unforgivable. And he's not that nice of a father to Rin either. He's a good magic teacher and knows how to treat a child, but that's pretty much it.

As for your second paragraph, I ain't gonna spoil anything so I'll just answer with knowledge acquired up until what's been animated so far. While Tokiomi is indeed a powerful magus, he has, more than anyone, the mindset of a mage, which is exactly what Kiritsugu specialized himself in predicting and countering.

Dusk252 | 40 Comments - | Reply

12/30/2011 9:05:24 PM #

Well, I agree that Kirei is the person I would less trust in the world. He's CREEPY!

I don't think he has done that without thinking of Sakura well being. I'm sure there has to be another explanation in the novels, something related with some special conditions in his childs that we still don't know about...

I don't think Tokiomi is like Archibald. Tokiomi is scheming in his actions and don't like fighting without knowing well his enemies. We saw already that he thought Kiritsugu to be a major enemy since the beginning...

feal87 | | Reply

12/30/2011 9:36:10 PM #

Don't forget I HAVE read the novels. There is indeed another explanation. And ok, I trolled you (but still couldn't convince you... why do you like Tokiomi so much? xD), he didn't know about the worms thing. He's not a good father, but he's not as evil as to completely disregard his daughter's well-being.

He's not like Archibald, and yes, he likes to plan everything to perfection but, as noticed by Kirei in the first novel, he always tends to miss some details when it comes to the execution (pretty much like Rin in FSN - must be genetic), and he's overconfident, thinking he's always in control, thinking he can always regain the upper-hand. He's just too optimistic for his own sake. And he wouldn't exactly think of counter measures to technology more than Archibald did (there's no denying that automatic defense was a good method), because technology is something he despises, to the point of ignoring its benefits (he only uses magic for communication, for example, disregarding the practicability of more "mundane" methods). And yes, he's a good planner, but Kiritsugu is a better strategist, having the advantage of being able to think of good solutions under pressure, while Tokiomi is more of a long-time planner, being less versatile.

Dusk252 | 40 Comments - | Reply

12/30/2011 9:42:57 PM #

I don't know why, but watching Tokiomi care that deeply about Rin in the Rin specific episode was the part that really made me think. "He can't be that evil, there must be a reason".

Well, she is his child so I think that yes it may well be genetic. The only difference is that I'd forgive anything to Rin because she's so damn cute. *__*

I'm not even sure he'll ever fight Kiritsugu to be honest, because Kariya hate deeply Tokiomi and may end up being the first to clash with him.

Not sure if he stand any chance against him though...

feal87 | | Reply

12/30/2011 10:09:56 PM #

Ok, I must say your intution is really good xD

You are... right again. In everything you said. It will be a really one-sided match.

Well, I did made it clear we were discussing an hypothetical situation and my take on it is that Kiritsugu would win.

Dusk252 | 40 Comments - | Reply

12/30/2011 10:13:11 PM #

Just following my instinct, nothing too rational here...

I really enjoyed the Rin dedicated episode, but well I'm a sucker for her...*__*

I'm sure Kiritsugu would win as well, but only because of plot armor. He needs to win because he appears in Fate Stay Night.

On a real battle, imho the end-result would be unclear, they're both talented and both can win.

feal87 | | Reply

12/25/2011 2:09:57 PM #

got to watch the Aria scarlet ammo OVA, it was as bad as the show, I want a 2nd season

alex | 362 Comments - | Reply

12/25/2011 2:38:44 PM #

Watched as well and yes, I want a second season as well. Need more Shirayuki!

feal87 | | Reply

12/25/2011 11:41:39 AM #

Caster loves them tentacles >.<

Rider is totally a bro, and I've found some new respect for Waver as well.

3 months is gonna be a while, especially with that cliffhanger. Can't wait for them fighter jets ^^

Leap250 | 245 Comments - | Reply

12/25/2011 11:46:38 AM #

Yeah, tentacles are so...so...disgusting...

Rider is really growing up as a nice character, I really want him to end his battle as a king!

www.emptyblue.it/.../berserker.jpg Berserker is on facebook at the moment, but he'll be back soon...

feal87 | | Reply

12/25/2011 12:32:34 PM #

It's how he shows his love I guess.. >.<

I lol'd so hard at that pic. Kayneth Fried Circuits!
I'd love to add Saber for a chat ^^

Leap250 | 245 Comments - | Reply

12/25/2011 12:56:38 PM #

True...

Ahahah, well he's trying to use his "capabilities"!

Same man and maybe meet up somewhere...*___*

feal87 | | Reply

12/25/2011 6:42:03 PM #

Damn. I have yet to watch this. I'm a way from home right now. Using my phone as modem to supply my internet. I'm really hoping it will be a good ending to the first season.

Rei | 508 Comments - | Reply

12/25/2011 6:43:23 PM #

Ahahah, be prepared man. There are thousands of people raging over the ending at this moment over the net. Remember to tell us here when you watched it and posted your impressions...

feal87 | | Reply

12/25/2011 6:45:05 PM #

Aw man that sounds really negative.. I might rage as well as everyone else. Thanks for the warning

Rei | 508 Comments - | Reply

12/25/2011 6:47:44 PM #

Ahahah, its not actually bad, but if you think that the next season is so far away you'll end up a bit "raging inside".

But well, we'll see as soon as you watch it!

I know that holidays suck up all the time more than normal work days...

feal87 | | Reply

12/25/2011 7:13:03 PM #

Ah the end was crueler than Caster himself, they can't be serious! Three months and more until the second season TT
Well, Im looking forward to see Sabers motobike XD

The rest of this ep was ok, there were some good dialouges.
Only this open battle make me sick, I should read the novel if there is one...

Wieselhead | 167 Comments - | Reply

12/25/2011 7:18:40 PM #

And they managed to troll us and give 0 serious action or intense battle in the whole first season...

Same, I'm not sure if to pick up the figure of Saber with Motorbike. It looks a bit small and costly...or not?

There is plenty to wait for, I got some little spoiler on the battles to come and well we'll get entertained quite a bit...

feal87 | | Reply

12/26/2011 6:01:33 AM #

Speaking of the figure, I really really REALLY want it! But the price is almost more then twice the usual amount I paid for mine D; Ahhhhh Hoooolyyy Viiirgiiin..

Kai | 59 Comments - | Reply

12/26/2011 9:38:15 AM #

Exactly, I love it as well, but with that price is...damn difficult to justify in my mind...

feal87 | | Reply

12/26/2011 1:51:03 PM #

I would get the bike instantly if Iri would ride it XD

Wieselhead | 167 Comments - | Reply

12/26/2011 2:22:22 PM #

Oh my god! Same man, would be an automatic SOLD OUT item...

feal87 | | Reply

12/25/2011 11:12:21 PM #

I thought they would at least end with the defeat of Caster. Ending it at the start of the battle? Come on now...

Reltair | 2 Comments | Reply

12/25/2011 11:14:03 PM #

cache.ohinternet.com/.../618px-Trollface_HD.png

This is probably the face of the director of the anime series in this precise moment...don't you agree?

feal87 | | Reply

12/25/2011 11:45:10 PM #

Haha, I agree.

Reltair | 2 Comments | Reply

12/25/2011 11:48:59 PM #

Well if we consider he's the same who directed "Ga-Rei Zero", I can understand his sense of trolling...

That anime was great, but at the same time a train-wreck...

feal87 | | Reply

12/26/2011 11:22:20 AM #

will I still remember the plot when this show starts up again? probably have to rewatch everything...

Rider is such a great character...they really did a good job with him

marthaurion | 907 Comments - | Reply

12/26/2011 11:26:26 AM #

Same for me man! They are trolling hard by giving 4 months wait between the two seasons...

Agreed, Its a likable character like few before...

feal87 | | Reply

12/26/2011 2:42:09 PM #

Damn bro. I know this is going to happen -___-
Seriously at least finish the battle of and end it.
Now I have to wait 4 months before watching this and I have to rewatch this week's episode again..

Rei | 508 Comments - | Reply

12/26/2011 2:44:28 PM #

Ahahah, welcome to the trolling world Rei! The director is having a lot of fun...

feal87 | | Reply

12/26/2011 2:48:29 PM #

So I guess i'll not buy the Saber figure because of this? xD

Rei | 508 Comments - | Reply

12/26/2011 2:53:42 PM #

Ahahah, I'm still undecided...have too many other figures to buy...

feal87 | | Reply

12/26/2011 3:23:53 PM #

Yeah man. I have a couple of other figures to buy too. The price for the figure is really making me poor this week. I hope the I have time before the pre-order is sold out. I have a feeling that it will be sold out.

Rider's dream is cool btw. Rider is soooooo cool, he should win the Holy Grail War not the other servant

Rei | 508 Comments - | Reply

12/26/2011 3:31:17 PM #

Ahahah, I just bought a new figure (maybe I told you already), and have preordered Homura from GSC on February...
My wallet is dearly crying...

We all know from Fate Stay Night how it ended...

feal87 | | Reply

12/26/2011 4:02:37 PM #

You didn't tell me about that. That figure looks gorgeous btw. I think I have to stop collecting figures one day. I'm going to need to buy another display glass from ikea, if I want to display more. Hopefully I will stop soon. xD

I know

Rei | 508 Comments - | Reply

12/26/2011 4:05:53 PM #

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10143165

This is the one I picked up, thought I linked to it already...

Nothing will stop us, I said the same years ago with mangas and I'm still collecting...

feal87 | | Reply

12/26/2011 4:10:12 PM #

I see. I didn't pick that one up, because I already pick this one http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10117309

Haha. I said this like last year too. But still, I wasn't able to stop. xD But my pre-order is getting lesser now. Hopefully in the end I'll stop. It's for a better cause

Rei | 508 Comments - | Reply

12/26/2011 4:11:22 PM #

I saw that one, but I preferred the more calm one. Hitagi from GSC looks so irritated...

feal87 | | Reply

12/26/2011 4:19:14 PM #

I hunt for the figures for months. I was lucky too be able to find that Hitagi PVC. Lucky for you that PVC is still available.

Well in my opinion it looks gorgeous. Especially the stationary part. It has been the top 5 hottest figure for a long time in MFC.

Rei | 508 Comments - | Reply

12/26/2011 4:25:36 PM #

I just pick up randomly when one of them interest me like I've done this time and with Homura's GSC.

Never really spent that much time searching...

feal87 | | Reply

12/26/2011 4:48:05 PM #

Haha that is good. I always search for the figure I want. If it is not available in the retail store, I'll try to find it on ebay or some of my local web forums. One of the hardest to collect is the K-ON figma. I have all of K-ON's figma. Including the limited edition Ui and Nodoka. Same goes to BRS figma, but only the originals not the game version.

Rei | 508 Comments - | Reply

12/26/2011 4:53:00 PM #

Ahahah, it looks like you're a collector. I feel a lot more noobish on this stuff, I need to improve with time...

feal87 | | Reply

12/29/2011 3:29:20 PM #

I like how they actually didn't end caster this season. They are clearly setting up for an explosive and high budget start for the next season. And if there is anything I love in the anime industry, it's high budget cutscenes!

sandybell | 33 Comments - | Reply

12/29/2011 3:49:41 PM #

I hope that's the case because the animation of this first season was really depressing...

feal87 | | Reply

12/31/2011 4:03:53 AM #

I finally got around to watching the last episode a couple days ago and my thought was "where's the killing!?" I'm really hoping that the second season will have a lot more action than the first. It would be really disappointing if nothing happened until the last few episodes.

Nopy | 105 Comments - | Reply

12/31/2011 11:40:53 AM #

Well, 5 of these heroes must die in one way or another and having only 12 episodes they need to go at a rate of 1 dead every 2,5 episodes...

Let's hope...

feal87 | | Reply

3/22/2012 10:05:39 AM #

killing that f*****g Caster is a good start of the next season..

kirziga | 105 Comments - | Reply

3/22/2012 10:09:31 AM #

But the pain of waiting 3 months to get it is so damn painful...

feal87 | | Reply

3/22/2012 10:35:49 AM #

don't worry it'll be just a flash, 3 months isn't that long.. hoho

kirziga | 105 Comments - | Reply

3/22/2012 10:40:16 AM #

Well, only few days remaining anyway to the new season...I suffered enough I suppose...

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